I often find myself saying "We don't need a framework or so much process." I think that assumes a level of experience and expertise I was allowed to get early in my career, by learning from some really strong product people. I didn't "just get it." And other people new to product shouldn't have to "just get it." I think frameworks and process and labels and all the things experts think are a waste of time and energy, can be useful to teach product to early career people. They might need some training wheels to get started making the right decisions and having the right conversations more naturally. I think there is danger is forcing process as "the only way to do the work right" or clinging to a specific process as you grow in your career, assuming you can't do anything outside of the original way you learned it.